NHL Playoffs 2007

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man! i wasnt to far off by guessing the rangers imo. they did really well in the series
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Valermos wrote:man! i wasnt to far off by guessing the rangers imo. they did really well in the series
actually you were 10 wins off :P thats actually alot when you need to win 16 for the cup :twisted:

they actually did do well. mostly because of lundqvist. without him they wouldnt have had a prayer. they lost today because they got caught in a run and gun game with the sabres. nobody in the league can beat buffalo in high scoring shootouts. but thats pretty dam good that they only had one game like that with the sabres out of 6.
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ya i think NY had it in them some games. they play much like the sharks, when they play well - there real good, but when they suck, THEY SUCK! like games 5 sharks (4-1 loss) ugghh hopefully the sharks can win today cause its my birthday and my gf bought me a new Blue Home Sharks sweater :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: i already have white but today they better win!

a guy was saying at work that it would be smart if the throw in our back-up goalie Toskala to change it up. i was agreeing, we'll see what we got in store for a huge game today
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deport nabby.
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nabokov is a dam good goalie. toskala is good too but goaltending definately hasnt been the sharks problem. i didnt realize you were so into hockey val lol thats good shit man. happy birthday btw.

i hope the sharks win too. it would be a much better series i think...ducks vs sharks.
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nabby's good but im not sure if u've been watching him recently, hes much like Hassek. They were very good in there prime, but now its like they fall behind a little. Toskala is good but im not saying he will turn the tides of the game deffinately. i really am so anxious to see this game today UGGHH im praying we win.

a guy at work and i were talking about what we think is wrong with the sharks. i really think its the breaks they give on the RW's. Our D seems to pinch up a little to far and they dont go in far enough on the PP's. If you've been watching u'll notice that we've given up way to many scoring chances via break aways. its really what i think is bad. that and Det's boards are i guess really bouncy, makes for easy passing for DET.
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Nabokov's save percentage in the series is 0.935

if 0.935 was his save percentage during the nhl regular season, he would have the best save percentage by far among NHL starting goalies. the mark starting goalies aim to be above is 0.900 or 90% of all shots they face stopped. 93.5% is an outstanding mark. youd be crazy to take a goalie with that high of a save percentage out of your net.

San jose's problem is they dont seem to want to show up for the whole game. the'yll play well 30, 40, 50 minutes... they need to put together a full 60 if they expect to compete in the stanley cup playoffs. the goalie is just the last line of defense against goals. it takes an entire team to prevent them.
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not to bring ya down but... the last 5 times the sharks faced elimination in the playoffs, they were eliminated. the last 3 times the redwings could eliminate a time from the playoffs, they have :shock:

time to break those streaks
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Valermos wrote: Det's boards are i guess really bouncy, makes for easy passing for DET.
must have just been that game. generally the puck bounces more in cities like dallas. los angeles, anaheim, san jose etc.. they do keep the pucks frozen at a certain temp before they are used to minimize bouncing, but they warm up pretty quickly in the warmer cities since ice lvl is quite a few degrees warmer, mainly in playoff time when the warmer weather starts to kick in. Same reason those cities tend to have the crappiest ice surface conditions. When dallas was making those cup runs years ago they had a hell of a time trying to keep the ice surface at the right temp and conditions in june. odly enough cities like toronto and new york, teams youd expect to have good ice, have crap ice too since they share with basketball franchises and the boards covering the ice during those games along with the fans basically sitting in seats that normally would be ice, make the ice shit too from their heat.

sounds like a few degrees should be a minor thing in the grand scheme of it but its actually huge. players sharpen their skates based on ice conditions. the softer the ice, the more shallow the cut on the blade. the harder the ice, the more deep you want the hollow to be cut.

if you have a deep hollow on softer ice, it digs in alot more and makes it feel like you are skating through mud, basically making you skate much slower. if your hollow is too shallow on the hard ice, you start to see players losing their edges and wiping out on fast sweeping turns.

lol hockey physics
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sj played pretty bad today :(((
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wouldnt be surprised if Ron Wilson gets canned at some point for the way he has handled his players this year.
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why what has he done?
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mainly the way he has handled patrick marleau. usually when it comes down to your captain or your coach, the coach is the one on his way out. patrick marleau isnt one to bitch or complain so they'll probably be set for another year. im not saying he will be fired, i just wouldnt be surprised if he was. whats that? 3 years in a row now they've shit the bed in the playoffs and ruined what had been great seasons...

maybe ron wilson has learned now what the rest of the hockey world already did, dont "call out" players like patrick marleau publicly. hes not the type of player that would respond to that, and clearly proved that in game 5 and 6 where he was actually even worse after wilson said that shit. if i could ask ron wilson 1 question, it would be... why the fuck was joe thornton 5th in ice time among SJ forwards in game 6? call me old fashioned but the way to score goals when your season is on the line isnt by keeping your most creative offensive player on the bench... sure he started to play him like crazy with 5 minutes left in the game but come on.. too little too late?
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oh ya he said something like "we need people like patty marleau to step it up and play there best games, he hasn't been playing up to par" or some shit. i did find it quite fucked up and they kept baggin him on FSN - the announcers. the one thing about pat i noticed. is hes a lot like cheechoo, hes either red fucking hott, getting hat tricks and making tits plays or w/e. or hes just cold and cant even hold onto the puck when it comes his way. but what can i say, they didnt give pat the best line. Clowe wasn't makin shit happen in front of the goal for him, so they changed that to what Rissy? Rissmiller isnt a body to put in front of the goal. who do they have on that line that has a big body. nobody! - Guerin, Rissmiller - Pat. thats no tip ins, no forchecks, nothing. that hurts. the only goals that line bade was some nice break goals.

i personally dont like ron wilson tho. i think he bags people to much, and he pulls some bone head stuff imo. i'd make some better line changes.

this was ron willsons lines for game 6

LINES
Michalek-Marleau-Bernier
Clowe-Thornton-Cheechoo
Rissmiller-Goc-Grier
Bell-Brown-Smith

Ehrhoff-McLaren
Hannan-Vlasic
Carle-Rivet

Nabokov-Toskala


wait, wtf - those arent the usualy lines. i'll post the usual lines.

Michalek - Thornton - Cheechoo
Rissmiller - Marleau - Guerin
Clowe - Goc - Bernier
Bell - Brown - Grier

ok this is what i'd change probably.

Michalek - Thornton - Cheechoo (this line sperfect as is)
Bell - Marleau - Guerin
Clowe - Goc - Grier
Rissmiller - Brown - Bernier

i think those are balanced with outside shooters, bodys in front, speed, and versatility.

the D lines arent that great since we have 1 righty - and he's usually spent half the time in the box. :(
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the worst thing he said i cant quite remember what the words were. he didnt name any names but it was clear it was patrick marleau hes was talking about.
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The hit on Homstrom in the Anaheim 5-0 loss to Detroit last night. Pronger got a 1 game suspension from the NHL when the reviewed the hit. The call on the ice was a boarding major to Niedermayer. Hopefully Anaheim can recover tomorrow night. Detroit's up 2-1 in the series.

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u just got knocked the fuck out!@
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im not for foul play, but good, fuck Holstrom. Nice hit to.
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I thought it was a nice hit when I first saw it, but Pronger did lead with his hands to the head of Holmstrom, which certainly makes it less clean... and considering Pronger did the most damage, the boarding major + game misconduct to Niedermayer was a little harsh in retrospect. I think it should have been a roughing or boarding minor to Niedermayer, plus the game suspension for Pronger.
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Niedermayer's part in it was fine. holmstrom should have his head up and not be watching his pass into the corner. proger got the suspension because he didnt get the penalty. i guarentee if the refs would have gotten it right and gave pronger the 5 and a game, that that would be all that happened with this.
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